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Saison Bruxellensis

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8½ lbs. Belgian Pilsner malt
½ lb. Vienna malt
½ lb. Munich malt (60L)
1 lb. clear candi sugar (syrup or rocks)

1 oz. Styrian Goldings hop pellets

½ oz. East Kent Goldings hop pellets
1 tsp. Irish moss
½ tsp. bitter orange peel

¼ oz. East Kent Goldings hop pellets

WLP 565 Belgian saison yeast
WLP 650 Brett Bruxellensis yeast

  • Heat 10½ quarts of water to 180°F, add to mash tun and rest until temperature drops to 170°F.
  • Mash grains at 150°-156°F for 60 minutes, until starch test shows conversion is complete.
  • Collect wort slowly while sparing with 5 gallons of 200°F water.
  • Collect 6.5 gallons, with a gravity of 1.040 (10.0 Brix).
  • Add candi sugar to bring gravity up to 1.048 (11.8 Brix).
  • Bring to a boil.
  • Boil 30 minutes and add SG hop pellets.
  • Boil 45 minutes and add ½ oz. EKG hop pellets, Irish moss and orange peel.
  • Boil 10 minutes and add ¼ oz. EKG hop pellets.
  • Boil 5 minutes and remove from heat.
  • Chill using wort chiller, rack to sterile fermentor, and dilute to 1.057 (14 Brix).  Or rack to sterile fermentor while hot, dilute, and chill with ice bath or allow to cool to room temperature overnight.
  • Pitch yeast when temperature is below 80°F and seal with airlock.  Fermentation should begin within 24 hours.
  • Ferment until gravity drops to 1.017 (8 Brix).
  • Keg and force carbonate, or bottle (I use Northern Brewer’s priming sugar calculator to determine how much priming sugar to use).

Yield: 5 gallons, ABV: 5.5%, IBU: 27.5

Kettle-Soured Saison

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We’ve tried to brew sour beer before, but with little success.  Which is unfortunate, since sours are the main style we like that we can’t easily find in shops.  So we were excited to hear about some alternate methods for souring beers that don’t involve waiting for years for traditional barrel-souring to work its magic.  We read the Mad Fermentationist blog post about a faster souring process,  and then found a really good breakdown of the various souring options.

We decided to go with the sour-kettling technique, which boils down to taking a break between collecting wort and doing the boil to sour the wort with Lactobacillus.  We used the same recipe we usually use for our Saison Bruxellensis, and left the wort in the kettle (bundled up with towels to keep in as much of the heat as possible).

We added pure Lactobacillus culture from White Labs, and let it sour for a few days, watching the pellicle formation and checking the pH with color-change test strips.

This is where we hit our first complication: the pH strips were not nearly sensitive enough to reflect the small changes in pH we were seeing.  So we mostly relied on taste to monitor the souring process.  It was a little hard to judge the sourness, because the unfermented wort has a bunch of sugar in it.  We reasoned that the fermentation would convert the sugar and make it seem more sour, so we stopped when the sourness was noticeable but not dramatic.  As it turns out, the final beer was no more sour, so next time we might let it go a little longer.

We did the boil and fermentation as usual with both saison yeast and Brett Bruxellensis in primary.  The fermentation proceeded normally, the gravity stabilized, and we bottled with priming sugar as usual.  But I think we were too hasty in bottling, because when we opened the first bottle about a week later, it was badly over-carbonated.  Shortly after that, the caps began to swell.  We put as many of the bottles as we could fit in our kegerator, and luckily we haven’t had any bottles explode.

So, there are a few kinks to work out in the process, but overall it seems very manageable.  It does add a few days between the mash and the boil — though that’s probably not a bad thing, since it naturally splits the brew day, and each half fits into an evening instead of taking up an entire day of our weekend.

The final results are very nice, if we do say so ourselves.  A very drinkable sour saison, with a little body, a little funk, and a mild sourness.  It’s not gueuze, but it’s much better than our (basically non-existent) previous sour options.

Tasting of Doom

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We were going to bottle a batch of beer, and were running short on 12 oz. bottles.  So we decided to taste all the homebrew we have hanging around (including some of questionable quality), and decide if there were any bottles we could free up — that is, if any of them were so bad we’d never drink them.

We started with our sours — five batches of saison fermented in 1 gallon glass growlers for a year, with various souring agents and a small honeycomb of oak for them to live on:

  • 17a (plain saison): this tasted fine, with more oak than we expected, but was almost completely flat.  Decision: borderline (would drink if we can carbonate it somehow).
  • 17b (Brett. bruxellensis): also fine, with good Brett character, but also terribly undercarbed.  Decision: borderline.
  • 17c (Lactobacillus): terrible and acrid.  Decision: drainpour.
  • 17d (Brett. & Lacto): sweet and cloying.  Decision: drainpour.
  • 17e (White Labs Sour Mix): very nice, but completely flat.  Decision: borderline.

We then moved on to our last batch of cysers/meads — again, small batches fermented in 1 gallon glass growlers, with four different kinds of honey:

  • 16a (Cross Creek Tupelo honey): sweet, rich, and completely flat.  Luckily still mead is a thing (not the thing we were trying to make, but sometimes you have to be flexible).  Decision: keep.
  • 16b (Cross Creek Everglades honey): very nice, but with a little bit of off flavor.  Decision: borderline.
  • 16c (Uncle John wildflower honey): lots of dark honey, oaky.  Decision: keep.
  • 16d (Uncle John’s clover honey): light, with tons of honey character, best of the tasting.  Decision: keep.

I’m left with an appreciation of how hard mead and sour beer are to get right.  Of the two, the mead definitely turned out better, with even the worst batch being tolerable.  By contrast, the sours with Lactobacillus are foul and undrinkable — it was easy to dump those to free up some extra bottles.  But the other sours were fine, other than being flat.  So we’re thinking about trying to force-carbonate them, either by decanting the remaining bottles into a keg, or using our Sodastream.

Speaking of Sours…

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We brewed a batch of saison in September and split it into five 1-gallon batches two months ago.  One batch was plain, one batch had Brett. Bruxellensis, one batch had Lactobacillus, one batch had both, and the fifth batch had White Labs’ sour mix.

I’m trying to be patient, and I’ve read that it often takes six months or more for the Brett. and Lacto. to work their magic.  But it has been two months, so we took some samples today to see how they’re going.  The first three batches were a little disappointing: they weren’t sour at all and had a definite sweet note, despite having attenuated pretty well (SG 1.014, 6.5%).  The fourth batch (Brett & Lacto) was lacking the sweet note and was just a tiny bit of tangy.  The fifth batch (White Labs’ mix) was decidedly sour.

So that’s promising.  We’ll park the growlers back in the pantry and check back in another few months, and try to be patient…

Sour Experiment

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Fresh off bottling our latest batch of cyser, we brewed another batch of saison on Labor Day.  This is happily burbling away in the pantry right now — burbling a little too happily, in fact.  It gunked up the airlock, so I replaced it with a blowout tube feeding into a gallon growler.  But then that blew out and got yeast gunk all over the floor and our shopping bags…

Anyway, we’re using the same grain bill we’ve used for saison in the past (Pilsner base, Munich/Vienna for a little color, and some candi sugar), an ounce of leftover low-alpha hops from our IPA, and our go-to Belgian yeast (WLP 530, supposedly from Westmalle just like Achel and Westvleteren use).

The boil was pretty much the same, except for omitting flavor and aroma hops entirely.  I did try one change on wort chilling (having ready several forum posts saying you could just rack to a plastic fermenting bucket and wait a day for it to drop to yeast pitching temp): I skipped the usual wort chiller and tried just racking through an ice bath:

Alas, it only cooled the wort by 5° or so, so hardly worth it.  Maybe if I had a coil…

The plan is to split the batch into five 1-gallon growlers and try a few different souring agents.  We’ve tried a few of these before — the first time we brewed saison, did three different Bretts (Bruxellensis, Lambicus and Claussenii), plus White Labs’ sour mix (which includes Brett, Lactobacillus, and Pediococcus).  We definitely got different kinds of funkiness, but nothing like sour.  Turns out, we just need to wait longer.  Years longer.  So the plan is to try more aggressive souring agents (like Lactobacillus culture) and add some honeycombed oak planks to help the bugs grow.  Then we’ll just park the gallon growlers somewhere out of the way and wait for something sour to happen.  We’ve bottled almost all of our batches this year, and we’re tired of it.  So I think we’re going to be happy to leave those growlers souring for a year or two, and get back to making full batches and kegging them.

Speaking of waiting a while, our next batch will be our 18th, and our 18th anniversary is coming up next April, so we were thinking about brewing something we could leave fermenting until then.  We know lots of beers that benefit from years of aging, but we’re still thinking about what would like 6 months.  We thought about brewing a stout, but couldn’t agree on a recipe (she likes dry stout, I like sweet).  Maybe a Tripel?

His & Hers

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We didn’t get any barrel-aged Marshal Zhukov — although we are normally very organized and early people, we arrived at Cigar City about 15 minutes after they started selling growlers, to find a rather long line snaking out of their tasting room and out into the parking lot.

When the news came out that the last keg blew, the line dissolved, with most of us heading into the tasting room to pickup whatever bottles and growlers we could.  There was a big crowd right in front of me swooping up the last of the Cucumber Saison.  But they brought out a few more boxes, and I did get a few bottles.  I also got a couple bottles of their collaboration with the Bruery, Dos Costas Oeste — cedar and lemon wood versions.

The cucumber saison tastes like, well, cucumber.  And since Wind likes cucumbers more than me, I guess it’s no surprise she likes it more than I do.  Though I’m now wondering why I like cucumber so much more with creaminess, and thinking about pairing cream cheese and cucumbers on a bagel.  The Dos Costas is the other way around — we tried the cedar aged version first, and I liked it quite a bit, particulary enjoying the spicy, astringent cedar.  Wind didn’t like it nearly so much, and glady handed me her glass to finish.

I guess the moral of the story is: don’t show up late for a Cigar City release, there will be a crowd of people in front of you.  Though they put out so much good beer, it really doesn’t matter, you can still find something interesting anyway.

Sour Beer Fest

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I went to the Sour, Lambic & Berlinner Weisse festival at Cajun Cafe on the Bayou in Tampa this weekend.  The flyer listed an impressive selection of sour beer, about half from Florida, about half from Belgium, and a few others (including BFM from Switzerland and Ommegang from New York).  There were also a few other domestic bottles that were not on the program (more on that later).

There were a couple of tables run by shops, with a wide selection of imports.  And there were several local breweries, brewpubs, and homebrew groups with broader selection of their brews.  I think my favorites of the afternoon were:

  • BFM’s Abbaye de Saint Bon-Chien (2007): they actually had four years of this brew (2006, 2007, 2009, 2010), with pretty significant differences between the years.  2006 was very funky but not very sour at all.  The 2009 and 2010 bottles were good, with varying sourness, funkiness and other flavors.  But the 2007 was really strong and tart, with just enough funkiness to make it interesting.
  • Hanssens’ Oude Gueuze: There were a several bottles from Hanssens, with various fruits.  But I think the plain gueuze was the best.  A very clean and sour gueuze.
  • 3 Fonteinen’s Schaerbeekse Kriek: This was the one kriek I really wanted to have when we were in Brussels, but couldn’t find.  I was not disappointed to have it at last: it had a great, almost gritty cherry base, with a big tart lambic bite.  Probably the best kriek I’ve had, with a nice combination of cherry and lambic flavors (instead of just having one of them prevail as often happens).
  • Cascade’s Sang Noir: I was really glad to see a few Cascade bottles were there.  This was a very nice, strongly cherry-flavored kriek, with a richness and creaminess that you don’t often see in sour beers.
  • Mikkellers’s Funky E *: The first glass of this I had was terrible and watery — I think it probably fell over in the ice bath.  But they opened up a second bottle and I’m glad I gave it another chance.  It had a nice oakiness, and more malty sweetness than most sours.

Another real treat came just after the second glass of Funky E * — I saw the server pull a bottle of Pliny the Elder out and put it in the ice bath under the counter.  I don’t know if he was planning on sharing, but I said “Hey! I saw that!” and he gave me a glass.  Within a few seconds, a crowd formed and the bottle was soon gone.  It definitely lived up to the reputation as being a very balanced, world-class IPA.  And I was a little amused to see the biggest commotion at the sour fest was for an IPA.

In fact, there were really only two disappointments of the afternoon:

  • I’d never had Berliner Weisse before, and I had several examples from a range of breweries.  I didn’t find any of them better than drinkable, and most of them I poured out.  So I can scratch that style off my list.
  • I didn’t like the offerings from Cigar City (one of the berliner weisses) or Saint Somewhere (a strange refermentation of their Saison Athene).  I generally count on them to make beers I like (and sometimes love), so that was a little sad.

Saison Bottling

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We bottled our experimental saison mini-batches last night.  Other than almost forgetting the priming sugar, and needing to sterilize a few extra 12 oz. bottles when our 25 oz. bottles were too big for our caps, everything went pretty well.  We had five 1-gallon growlers with different yeast strains, and we didn’t want to cross-contaminate.  So we sterilized our tubing and bottling tip between each batch.  That was time-consuming at first, but we got better with practice.

We started by taking gravity readings of each batch.  Three of the batches (the plain saison yeast, Brett. Bruxellensis and Bret. Lambicus) were all right around the target gravity (1.014).  But the Brett. Claussenii and Belgian Sour Mix batches weren’t quite done (1.018 and 1.020).  But we were done waiting (and they were done bubbling), so we bottled them anyway. We tasted the gravity samples for each batch, and there were definite differences between them.  The plain saison was very dry.  The Brett. batches all had some funkiness to them, though it was hard to tell them apart.

Then we siphoned them straight into a racking tip.  There was a little more loss than with a single big batch, but we wound up with around 4 gallons bottled (6x 22 oz. and 32x 12 oz.).  And it was definitely more bother than doing a single large batch.  But I think it’s worth it for the chance to try a ton of options all at once.

Saison Experiment

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We have long wanted to brew our own saison.  After all, it’s the style of beer that really opened my eyes to the possibilities of beer and got us more interested in brewing and sampling as much as we could.  But it was only recently when I started reading about saison in the Oxford Companion to Beer that I really understood just how complicated it is.

First of all, while there is a general style of base beer that is the most popular for making saison, you can in fact make sour beer from any base beer.  And then there are several different species of Brettanomyces yeast, each with its own character and intensity.  There are also a couple different kinds of bacteria that sour beer.  And of course, there are a bunch of variables in the souring process, such as when you add Brett./bacteria (primary fermentation, secondary, bottling), or how warm you ferment (Dupont is supposed to ferment at 90°, for example).

So, we found a Saison Dupont clone recipe online that looked about right, and picked up five different vials of yeast: a straight saison yeast, three different Brett. yeasts (B. bruxellensis, B. claussenii, and B. lambicus), and Belgian Sour Mix (with Brett. and bacteria).

This was our second all-grain brew, and it went pretty smoothly.  Our 5-gallon water cooler mash tun didn’t hold temperature, but we kept adding hot water until it was warm enough.  The mash and boil went great, and after adding water to make up five gallons, the gravity was exactly on target (1.057).  We also used fine mesh hop sacks this time instead of cheesecloth, which made for much less gunk to filter out of the wort.

After the boil, we put the wort into our bottling bucket and filled five 1-gallon growlers, one with the Belgian Sour Mix, the second with just regular saison yeast, and the last three with saison yeast and one kind of Brett.  We’re hoping this will help us figure out what kind of saison we want to brew a larger batch of later this summer.  And if everything works out, this should be a great way to try out a bunch of different options in small batches.  There are so many options, especially for mead and cider, and it would be nice to have a good process to try out a lot of options and see what we like.